Steff calls "bullshit"

T. commented on the posting below. He said: “I don’t really think women deserve orgasms. Sure, I’ll go down on a woman, but it’s only because I enjoy it, not because her orgasms matter at all. When I was in my 20s, there was a lot of competition for women, and they could pick and choose. Now that I’m in my 30s, and since all the really good guys have been married off or are gay, I find myself in the catbird’s seat. Women these days are a lot less picky, so when I say, “you don’t really deserve orgasms” I can tell they aren’t happy, but will take what they can get. In other words, me.”
I say bullshit. I say you get what you give. I say I can make a man cum six ways to Sunday. But I don’t need to go above and beyond, and I sure as fuck won’t if you’re not willing to put it all out. You get what you give. And it’s still a crock to say something like that, but since I believe in democracy, I’m opening the floor to YOU, my lovely readers.
And if a chick said that, she’d get the same attitude from me. It’s bullshit. You’re involved with someone — you give them what you got. Period. Gender be damned. I’m sick and tired of the frickin’ “What’s in it for me” crap that’s everywhere today.
(Update: Turns out he was being silly and pushing for controversy [which I always enjoy anyhow] so I’d get as many comments as possible, thus hurrying the next segment of the Man’s Guide getting posted. Heh. Sadly, a certain someone still needs to WRITE it, so… Yes, it’s coming, no, not just yet. But I have the day off, so, maybe soon.)
Oh, and if you’re just kicking back and waiting for more oral delight tips, no, sorry. It don’t work that way. I’m waiting on more comments on the posting below, first. I’m not ashamed to admit I’m in this game for attention. It’s fun.

27 thoughts on “Steff calls "bullshit"

  1. Anonymous

    I’m with you–and thank GOD my husband isn’t like that selfish pig, T (does it stand for TROLL?)

  2. figleaf

    A) “Never mudwrestle with a pig. You’ll both get muddy and the pig likes it.” In the pre-internet days of bulletin boards and mailing lists we called people like that “trolls” because they would post deliberately provocative comments and then sit back and enjoy the resulting flames. It’s remotely possible he was saying what he really believes (and in an *extremely* left-handed way it’s interesting to note that his intrinsic enjoyment of cunnilingus is strong enough that he disregards his partners’ response) it’s far more likely that he was trying to provoke a response. In which case he’s succeeded, which may in turn encourage him to attempt to poison other wells.

    B) As promised in comments to your previous post see http://www.realadultsex.com/archives/2005/08/figleaf_recomme.html I hope it will steer more traffic your way tomorrow.

    Take care,

    figleaf

  3. scribe called steff

    Anon — I do not know. Figleaf is suggesting it might. Read on.

    _________

    Figleaf — You know what? I LOVE the opportunity to rant. I can’t afford therapy (who can?) so it gets me off to vent. I could care less if it encourages him to spread it. I think more people need to respond with “You’re a stupid ass, and let me tell you why” when they encounter absolute idiocy. Instead, we all try to measure our responses, and what does that get us? More repressed angst.

    If provoking a response is what he wanted, then I was more than happy to acquiesce. Even if he doesn’t feel this way, I guarantee you, some men do. And they will never, ever experience the full extent of what I have to offer, and rightfully so.

    And YOU get my gratitude. What a lovely posting! Thank you for the ringing endorsement.

    _______

    Anna — And PRAISE BE. πŸ˜‰

  4. over educated nympho

    I wonder how Troll would feel if a chick went down on him, was giving fabulous toe-curling head, then she just stopped. “Sorry sweetie, but you don’t deserve an orgasm.”

  5. Saucy Monk

    T. is ridiculous. If what he says about his immaculate sex life at 30 is true, then he should consider himself fucking lucky and learn to pay it forward. There is such a thing as bad karma dude. Oh, and if what he says is true, I can’t imagine the low calibre of women he’s hookin’ up with. Then again, what do i know…i’m a simple monk.

  6. scribe called steff

    Nympho — Snicker. Nice.

    Monk — T. now admits he was being preposterous and has apologized. But you still get brownie points.

    I dig yer site. It’s funny. Thanks for playing.

  7. T

    I have no idea what my sex life would be like if I actually thought that, and I have no desire to find out. And I also have no desire to ever be with someone who would put up with that bs…

    I did once spend several hours going down on someone, giving her several ‘toe curling’ orgasms, only to have her say that she wasn’t going to go down on me in return – or give me any other relief. To be honest, it didn’t bother me that much – it was early/late enough that I went right back down there – because I really do enjoy it, and there clearly wasn’t any other fun to be had. I didn’t walk away pissed, but I also didn’t keep her number.

    I did find myself smiling, watching some other guy hit on her a few weeks later, thinking that he wasn’t going to have as much fun as he thought he was…

    And t doesn’t normally stand for Troll, but it did for that post. Although my goal was to prevoke a response, it wasn’t to piss anyone off, as I inadvertantly did. My apology is in the other thread…

  8. scribe called steff

    Ah, I gotcha covered, T. New posting’s up in about 10-15 minutes and will get you off the hook in the intro.

  9. saltwatercowgirl

    OK I vote for giving t a break, he sounds like one of my exes, he was always making provocative comments to get people talking and then getting in trouble when people took him seriously.
    Actually his name began with a t…hmmm, could be him.
    In which case I hope he’s taking notes, particularly on the fingernail thing!

  10. scribe called steff

    LOL. “particularly on the fingernail thing.”

    Hilarious. I vote for giving T a break too. Right on.

    Boys that antagonize me sometimes get me hotter. Kinda like that bad-boy fetish I have.

  11. T

    My fingernails are always trimmed and smooth. Not that I’m metrosexual or anything (NTTAWWT), but it wasn’t me if the guy had long or ragged fingernails…

    Judging from your blog, that was my loss.

    πŸ™‚

    Good to know Steff – boys that antagonize you sometimes get you hotter? Did I mention that I think that women getting paid 70% of what men do for the same work is more than fair? Nor should they be allowed to wear pants at work?

    NO NO NO NONONONO – I’m JOKING. Pants are sexy and equal pay for equal work. I don’t have the guts to go through with it. As enticing as it might be to get our editrix hot, it’s just too dangerous….

  12. scribe called steff

    LOL. It is dangerous. πŸ˜‰

    But yes, I’ve always enjoyed a little antagonism in the bedroom, too. Love the tease denied sometimes. All fun. Way too damned fun.

  13. scribe called steff

    See, T? You could wind up very lucky.

    By the way, that “q?” I’m still hoping to find out more for you, but it’s looking like next week or something. Haven’t forgotten.

  14. T

    Cool – my friend’s state is currently under 10 feet of water, so there’s no rush on the q? I mean, she’d probably appreciate it, but she’d need to find a dry spot to enjoy it first.

    I have my fingers crossed…. I’ll take all the compliments people are willing to give me, but an hour under the sheets would be better than any compliment.

  15. T

    Hey – the ratio is 10:1 – you come ten times in that hour – and then it’s my turn πŸ˜‰

    If it takes longer to get to ten – then it takes as long as it takes. It’s not like I’m on the clock….

  16. Anonymous

    T – Sorry for the slow response. Still contemplating the 10 orgasms in one session. Unimaginable. You must forgive me. I was married to a lawyer. ;o)

  17. Anonymous

    Hahahahaha! That’s hilarious! You have no idea. Lawyers seem to be my lot in this life…no matter where I encounter a man, IRL or online, he turns out to be a lawyer. What kind of evil creature WAS I in the last one?

    Come home, baby. All is forgiven.

    I’m not Melissa, though. Is that a bad thing?

  18. T

    Not at all, considering how she broke up with me. But she did introduce me to… certain things… and I kind of feel like I owe her. So if you were her, well, I know a few ways to express my gratitude.

    As for why you are surrounded by lawyers? You must be on the LIST. It is a separate publication of the ABA made up of people of both sexes that we’ve targeted as (a) being great in bed, and (b) able to tolerate lawyers. It’s not that long a list, unfortunately…

    I’ve been working alphabetically – should I switch to reverse-alphbetically, or do you just want me to start with a certian letter?

  19. Anonymous

    t – God bless Melissa, then. For the teaching, not for the breaking up. We scorn her for that!

    The LIST, huh? Well, that COULD explain it. Assuming the CBA keeps a similar list. I’m not surprised it’s short. Item b) would be a tough category to fill. ;o)

    As for the alphabetical approach (what IS with you guys and the alphabet?) bypass a through c and then stop before you get to e. Yeah, there. That’s it, right there.

  20. T

    D – upper case or lower case? I’ll have to keep that in mind in case you ever email me πŸ˜‰

    That’s actually one of the strengths of the alphabet system, if it is used the way it is supposed to be used. You start out with a, b, c… and then if you get to a letter where you get a positive reaction, you stick with it, or at least keep coming back to it. The alphabet system is not about blindly going through the alphabet, not paying attention to your lover. For example, I could tongue out ‘Daddy Dom likes the letter ddddddddddddd.’ If ‘d’ is all you need, awesome. But maybe tomorrow ‘d’ won’t get it done. So then we have an organized system to see if another letter would be better.

    Boys like organized systems.

    Like I said before, it’s all about the audience.

    And the alphabet system.

  21. Anonymous

    Upper case, usually. Unless lower case works better. πŸ˜‰

    It is indeed all about the audience. And the alphabet. But let’s not forget the numbers.

    In the words of Monica, “A one… a two… a three… a three-two… two… four-seven… five-seven…six-seven; seven, seven…”

    Indeed, alphanumeric may just be the way to go.

    D

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