Should Irwin Have Changed After Kids?

So, earlier I asked if you have the right to ask a risk-taker to tone down their lifestyle once you get hooked to them.

My opinion? No. You do not. And if they tell you you can go ahead and tell them how to change; don’t. You’d fucking with what oughtn’t be fucked.

In a nutshell.

My posting was inspired by the death of Steve Irwin. There are those who apprently think he should’ve “settled down” since he had kids. Yeah, as a kid, the first thing I wanna know is that my father gave up almost everything he loved so he could raise me — sit in a fucking armchair with a remote and tell me how he “used to be like that” once.

Terri Irwin got a precious gift that most of us might never, ever, ever receive: She fell in love with someone who kept all the qualities that made him so loveable as the person he was when they first met. Bloody sweet, that. And she had it for a while. And then it got snatched. Love happens, death happens, it all is what it is.

Life’s a truckload of hurts some days and there’s no getting around that.

The point is, it’s hard enough to be ourselves in the face of everyday life. It’s harder still to remember who we are when we get lost in the arms of someone else. To be able to hang on to your identity despite your love for someone else and your wish to be with them, why, that’s as downright admirable as it gets.

To hell with those who think otherwise.

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In other Croc-Hunter news, let me go on record to say that, while Germaine Greer periodically says something intelligent, I:

a) think she can be a complete twat who has done as much to hinder feminism as she has to further it. She’s arrogant, dismissive of men, flighty, inconsistent, hypocritical, and far too militant for my tastes. (Despite my believing I’m a feminist, thank you very much. Ain’t no fucking eunuch here, baby.)

b) think she’s a far bigger bitch than I’d thought before now that I’ve read her comments on the death of Steve Irwin.

I do not believe that to be a strong woman I need to demoralize men. I believe that, as a strong, independent chick, I can exalt men in my life and cater to them as I wish, because I fucking well know who I am when I go to bed at night (most of the time; we all get a little too lost in our relationships some of the time). I take no backseat to any man. But I’ll hold the door open for ‘em if they’ll let me, because I have nothing to prove. I’m empowered by the mere fact that I don’t need to seek power, all right?

I’d get into my whole beef about how feminism has been executed, but I’m too tired and it’d take too damned long. Suffice to say that while I fight for my equality, I don’t think it needs to come at the cost of emasculating men. There’s room enough for us both, and I don’t think chicks like Greer understand that concept, but then I don’t like her enough to read her work. I listen to others gripe about her and praise her, so I’m ignorant, but by choice.

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6 Comments

  1. Stef
    Posted September 7, 2006 at 4:28 am | Permalink

    Germaine Greer aka the Female Eunich calls Steve Irwin an “embarrassment”.

    Both as an animal and feminist lover I must say that Germaine Greer is an “embarrassment” for cows…
    for “stupid cows” that is.

    Try to argue your point through with people that are still alive Germaine…

    Malaysia Newspaper

  2. Anonymous
    Posted September 7, 2006 at 9:43 am | Permalink

    Steff,

    In the future, why not quote the whole thing since it was only 3 sentences. Not that it matters, but here’s what I said.
    “As far as Steve Irwin, as much as I respect him I can’t say I feel sorry for him. All I can say is I hope he has a large insurance policy for his wife and child. There’s a point where self has to take a back seat to the others in your life.”

    Now, let’s go to what my intent was when I said that (and maybe my working coulda been better, but wtf anyway).

    The breadwinner in that family is gone. The “name” and the “show” are gone. And the “star attraction” that people came and paid to see, ain’t there anymore. With it, most likely a big part of that income is leaving. And soon public sympathy and outcry will fade into the background. He’s left a widow and a fatherless child. And they’re on their own now, more or less.

    We can only hope that he didn’t leave them with a mountain of debt. And that he had enough means or insurance to ensure their future well-being. When kids come along, things change. You ain’t single anymore. And if you’re a responsible parent, you’ll want to make sure both of their well-being are taken care of if you love them. If those bases are covered, then do whatever the hell you want. All I’m saying is that I hope he made sure his bases were covered and they’re taken care of.

    previous topic ” I’m living the dream I had as a young child, doing things I never would have thought I would ever be able to do becaue I followed my heart and I am living my life my way, sometimes to a fault I guess if I were listening to society…I’m not!”

    Roscoe, let’s go with the assumption that you’re not lying when you say you’re “living the dream”. And let’s assume I’m not lying when I say I’m happy with my life so far. Ok? But I’ll admit I’ve never seen anyone who’s so fucking brilliant and perceptive that they can read someone like a book based on one statement. And frankly, I still haven’t.

    …There are those who apprently think he should’ve “settled down” since he had kids. Yeah, as a kid, the first thing I wanna know is that my father gave up almost everything he loved so he could raise me — sit in a fucking armchair with a remote and tell me how he “used to be like that” once.”

    Steff, who knows why people do that. Lost their will to live? Felt the world was against him? Didn’t think life was worth living anymore because of who knows what, but felt an obligation to hang around because of the kids? Who knows. That’s their choice if they do that. No one truly knows what another’s reasons are. If and when you have kids, let’s see if your viewpoint changes.

    Ack. And you left out my statements on the thumb-sucking nitwit and national embarrassment in the Oval Office that we here in the US call George. I’m sure a Red Stater or two here reading that might find it amusing.

  3. scribe called steff
    Posted September 7, 2006 at 10:16 am | Permalink

    I didn’t quote the whole thing ‘cos I wanted to cause a controversy and have something to write about. Don’t take it personally. :) I didn’t cite you, and I bet all of five people have read the original comment, since not many people read the other blog. BUT I did quote that in the second posting below this. Didn’t you see that one?

    Anyhow, I know they’re on their own, but five bucks says they’re not going to be hurting for cash. I’m sure there’s been some contingencies in place.

    I won’t have kids, and if I did, I probably would make them the focus because I think it’s important to do that. But I’ve never climbed mountains or don’t anything dangerous, so I wouldn’t have to squelch myself.

    Heh, and this had nothing to do with politics. I don’t include politics unless I’m actually writing about it. :)

  4. roscoe
    Posted September 8, 2006 at 12:10 pm | Permalink

    Steve Irwin is not hurting for cash, neither is his estate…

    Sad how when people die the first thing that is thought about is “how much money is there for me”…

    Is that all you find life to be worth?

    Steff posted it to cause controversy and she did…but what you wrote originally seems sad and childish…

    Are you really that unhappy in your own life that the death of someone doing what they love and the simple fact they showed the world their passion for what they do everyday gives you an option to make an opinion about that life?

    You asked if I am really living my dream?

    Hell ya, you could ask anyone that knows me, I have lived the life I dreamed about as a kid because I didn’t listen to anyone else who told me otherwise…something I’m sure you would try and do..

    Sorry Steff for hijacking you answer space…

    Sometimes people who look in the mirror and judge other peole without knowing what makes them tick piss me off…

    Life is to be lived, not dreamed about…I’ll take 40 years of passion over 400 years of mediocricy anytime

  5. scribe called steff
    Posted September 8, 2006 at 12:20 pm | Permalink

    I don’t think what they posted was sad and childish. It’s different values. Don’t run someone else down and then claim it pisses you off when others do precisely what you’re doing right now. It’s hypocritical. Just calling them as I see them. That original poster has been very polite through all of this, so don’t get all huffy in response. You’re misunderstanding his intentions.

    That said, I still disagree with his original posting, but I don’t think anyone needs to get all aggressive in dealing with the topic, is all. :)

  6. Anonymous
    Posted September 8, 2006 at 5:36 pm | Permalink

    Roscoe,

    “Are you really that unhappy in your own life that the death of someone doing what they love and the simple fact they showed the world their passion for what they do everyday gives you an option to make an opinion about that life?”

    Like I stated, I used the assumption that you weren’t lying when you said you were “living the dream”, and by the same token, I wasn’t lying when I said I’m happy with my life so far.

    Did you understand that or not?

    And I explained my reasoning for my comments in these two paragraphs:
    “The breadwinner in that family is gone. The “name” and the “show” are gone. And the “star attraction” that people came and paid to see, ain’t there anymore. With it, most likely a big part of that income is leaving. And soon public sympathy and outcry will fade into the background. He’s left a widow and a fatherless child. And they’re on their own now, more or less.

    We can only hope that he didn’t leave them with a mountain of debt. And that he had enough means or insurance to ensure their future well-being. When kids come along, things change. You ain’t single anymore. And if you’re a responsible parent, you’ll want to make sure both of their well-being are taken care of if you love them. If those bases are covered, then do whatever the hell you want. All I’m saying is that I hope he made sure his bases were covered and they’re taken care of.”

    I even said, “If those bases are covered, then do whatever the hell you want”. To me, it’s a matter of priorities if you have people that depend on you.

    So please explain the logic you used to get from my statement “make sure both (the wife and child) of their well-being are taken care” to your statement “how much money is there for me”.

    Ok?

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